Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 120

04/06/2005 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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+= HB 12 TVS AND MONITORS IN MOTOR VEHICLES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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+ HB 33 EFFECT OF REGULATIONS ON SMALL BUSINESSES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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*+ HB 205 REVIEW AND SUSPENSION OF REGULATIONS TELECONFERENCED
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+ SB 105 OVERTIME WAGES FOR FLIGHT CREW TELECONFERENCED
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+ HB 183 CAMPAIGN FINANCE: SHARED EXPENSES TELECONFERENCED
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+ SB 36 ABSENTEE BALLOTS TELECONFERENCED
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HB 12 - TVS AND MONITORS IN MOTOR VEHICLES                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:57:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  announced that  the first  order of business  would                                                              
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  12, "An  Act  relating  to  televisions  and                                                              
monitors  in motor  vehicles."   [Before  the  committee was  CSHB
12(STA).]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG,  speaking as one of the  prime sponsors,                                                              
referred  to the  proposed committee  substitute (CS)  for HB  12,                                                              
Version  24-LS0058\X,   Luckhaupt,   4/5/05,  which  contained   a                                                              
handwritten  alteration  to page  1,  line 11  -  changing "a"  to                                                              
"the".   He indicated that  the Department  of Law (DOL)  has also                                                              
suggested that  Version X be altered  such that what  is currently                                                              
subsection  (a)(2)   becomes  subsection   (a)(1),  and   what  is                                                              
currently subsection (a)(1) becomes subsection (a)(2).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG made a  motion to  adopt Version  X with                                                              
both the  handwritten alteration and  the change suggested  by the                                                              
DOL as the  work draft.  There  being no objection, Version  X, as                                                              
amended, was before the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG indicated  that Version  X, as  amended,                                                              
incorporates some  suggestions made by  the DOL and  various other                                                              
parties,  and  that  some  suggested  changes  were  not  made  to                                                              
Version X  because the drafter has  assured him that  such changes                                                              
are not necessary,  either because of language  already in Version                                                              
X or because of language currently in statute.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:59:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,   Assistant  Attorney  General,   Legal  Services                                                              
Section-Juneau, Criminal  Division, Department of Law  (DOL), said                                                              
that the  DOL worked  extensively with the  sponsor with  the goal                                                              
of  clarifying the  language  such that  it  conforms to  Alaska's                                                              
drafting  style, and  removing unnecessary  language.   She  noted                                                              
that with the  DOL's aforementioned suggested  change incorporated                                                              
into  Version X,  as amended,  a  conforming change  must also  be                                                              
made to page 1, line 13.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  made a  motion  to adopt  Amendment  1,                                                              
changing "(a)(1)"  to "(a)(2)"  on page 1,  line 13.   There being                                                              
no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI said that the DOL supports [the bill].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  noted that it  can be very  difficult to                                                              
determine whether  the driver  of a  vehicle is actually  watching                                                              
an  entertainment  system while  car  is  being driven;  for  this                                                              
reason,  the  bill applies  if  the  entertainment system  can  be                                                              
viewed  by the driver,  the entertainment  system  is on,  and the                                                              
car  is being  driven.   He  offered  his understanding  that  the                                                              
penalties  proposed in  the  bill track  current  penalties for  a                                                              
number of existing crimes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  added that  watching  a  video while  operating  a                                                              
motor vehicle  would be  considered reckless  conduct -  knowing a                                                              
risk exists  and disregarding  it.   Such behavior,  if it  causes                                                              
the death of another  person, would be a class A  felony under the                                                              
bill; this  corresponds to  the crime  of manslaughter,  which she                                                              
characterized  as  a reckless  killing  that  is  also a  class  A                                                              
felony.   She said that  the other penalties  provided for  in the                                                              
bill track  the homicide statutes  in Title  11.  For  example the                                                              
aforementioned behavior,  if it causes serious physical  injury to                                                              
another person,  would be a  class B felony,  just like  the crime                                                              
of assault in the second degree.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAHLSTROM asked  whether the  issue of  passengers                                                              
watching  a video while  the vehicle  is being  operated has  been                                                              
raised.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG   reiterated   that   the   bill   only                                                              
criminalizes  the  behavior  of  the driver  if  an  entertainment                                                              
system  is in  use while  the vehicle  is being  operated and  the                                                              
entertainment system is visible to the driver.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  said he  hopes  that the  equipment  the                                                              
bill  applies to  would  not  include either  a  cell  phone or  a                                                              
stereo system that is operated by a touch screen.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG noted  that Version  X, as amended,  has                                                              
an  effective  date of  September  1,  2005.   He  mentioned  that                                                              
Representative Seaton  had also expressed a concern  that the bill                                                              
would apply  to cell phones containing  a small video screen.   He                                                              
offered  his belief  that  as currently  drafted,  the bill  would                                                              
apply to  such devices, but said  he would accept a  change adding                                                              
an exception for that type of technology.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:06:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  suggested   that  Representative  Anderson's                                                              
concern could be  addressed by adding the word  "entertainment" to                                                              
page 1,  line 9,  after "visual"  and before  "display", and  then                                                              
defining  "visual entertainment  display" to  include such  things                                                              
as movies, TV shows, and games.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG said  he would  be happy to  incorporate                                                              
such a change into the bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ANDERSON   suggested    adding   "stereo   system                                                              
[information]" to the list of items exempted via subsection (c).                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE,  speaking as  one of the  prime sponsors,  said she                                                              
didn't want  such an exemption to  apply to stereo  equipment that                                                              
is capable of displaying an artist's performance.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  suggested  adding cell phones  and "audio"  systems                                                              
to the list of exemptions in subsection (c).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  indicated   a   willingness  to   have                                                              
members'  concerns addressed  via  language  he would  incorporate                                                              
into a new CS  that could be brought to the committee  at a future                                                              
date.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:10:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG,  in   response   to  comments,   again                                                              
reiterated that  the penalty proposed  in the bill applies  if the                                                              
entertainment   system  can   be   viewed  by   the  driver,   the                                                              
entertainment  system  is on,  and  the  driver is  operating  the                                                              
vehicle.   He  said he  does  not want  to  have to  prove that  a                                                              
driver  was  actually  watching   an  entertainment  system  while                                                              
driving because that will be and has been difficult to prove.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE concurred,  and  noted that  a  person will  always                                                              
deny watching  an entertainment  system while driving;  therefore,                                                              
they  would be  right back  where they  started if  the bill  only                                                              
criminalizes  the  actual  watching  of  an  entertainment  system                                                              
while  driving.   She  expressed a  preference  for deterring  the                                                              
behavior of  having an entertainment  system installed so  that it                                                              
is viewable  by the  driver of  a vehicle.   She suggested  simply                                                              
flushing  out  the  exemptions regarding  cell  phones  and  audio                                                              
systems that don't have a video component.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:14:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TODD  SHARP,  Lieutenant,  Division   of  Alaska  State  Troopers,                                                              
Department of  Public Safety (DPS),  said simply that  the dangers                                                              
of  inattentive driving  are obvious,  that the  DPS supports  [HB
12], and  that the  problems associated  with drivers  of vehicles                                                              
watching   entertainment  systems   while  driving   need  to   be                                                              
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:15:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS  JOHNSON,  Senior Director,  Technology  Policy,  Consumer                                                              
Electronics  Association  (CEA),  expressed appreciation  for  the                                                              
work done  to date on the  bill, and said his  organization's main                                                              
interest  is  in  seeing consistency  with  the  approaches  other                                                              
states are  taking towards this issue.   So although Version  X is                                                              
getting  close  to being  satisfactory  to  the  CEA, there  is  a                                                              
concern regarding  what types  of equipment  the bill  would apply                                                              
to.  He  mentioned that the  CEA had offered model  legislation to                                                              
the   House  State   Affairs   Standing   Committee;  that   model                                                              
legislation  focuses  broadly  on   video  displays  that  produce                                                              
entertainment  or business  applications.   Because technology  is                                                              
always  changing,  as soon  as  legislation  specifies  particular                                                              
products, there will  inevitably be more products to  add to those                                                              
lists.    He  said  the  CEA would  be  happy  to  work  with  the                                                              
committee  and offer  suggestions  for  changes to  the  provision                                                              
listing the equipment that the bill would apply to.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  noted that members' packets  include the                                                              
letter from  Mr. Johnson  that contains  the aforementioned  model                                                              
legislation  language,  and indicated  that  he would  be  meeting                                                              
with Mr. Johnson later.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE, after  ascertaining  that no  one  else wished  to                                                              
testify, closed public testimony on HB 12.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:18:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT pointed out  that many recreational  vehicles                                                              
(RVs)  have television  monitors placed  such that  the driver  of                                                              
the RV can view  it simply by turning his/her head.   He suggested                                                              
that the  bill would apply  to such vehicles  and thus could  be a                                                              
problem,  particularly  for  those  with  RVs  that  already  have                                                              
televisions installed in that position.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.   JOHNSON,   in   response   to  a   question,   offered   his                                                              
understanding that  some states  have included exemptions  for RVs                                                              
in their legislation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  Mr.  Johnson  to  research  that                                                              
issue further.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON said he would do so.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  suggested   that  perhaps  the  bill  should                                                              
stipulate  that  a  video  display  monitor  must  be  behind  the                                                              
driver.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   agreed  to  consider   such  language,                                                              
which, he noted, was contained in the model legislation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 12, Version X, as amended, was held over.]                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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